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Post by dave1800 on Apr 20, 2012 3:31:47 GMT
No worry. It does my head in sometimes sorting out the timing logic. That reminds me, maybe we will hear from Tommy soon! Regards David Dave, indeed - I was thinking of having the crank marks out... D'oh! Regards, Alexander |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 20, 2012 9:15:25 GMT
Hi Chris I've now tracked down the crankshaft pulley notch and timing cover changes - they were in the last paper BL manual where I should have looked first! Regards David Attachments:
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 25, 2012 0:02:31 GMT
Haven't done anymore with the timing yet, although I have saved the attachment for future reference. I had a decent run out this evening, up to York and back via Harrogate for the LOCI meeting; about 85 miles. The engine has now done about 135, but this was its first proper run, rather than local hopping about. She's run very nicely. Smooth, plenty of power and no unexpected noises. It's obviously starting to bed-in a bit, as the idle has risen noticably. I assume that things are freeing up. I'll wind it down again at the weekend. Rather frustrating to have to limit yourself to 55mph with the odd little burst at higher speeds. The A658 is a lovely road to drive when it's empty.....  Still, very pleased so far. 300 mile round trip coming up to Gaydon on Sunday for the Wolseley Owners Club AGM, which will take her nicely up to the 500 mile mark and time for the oil and filter change. Fingers crossed, no surprises, please. Chris. |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 25, 2012 2:27:46 GMT
Hi Chris
Good to hear the car is going so well. Yes, the A658 is fun when the traffic is light with sweeping bends ideal for the 1800.
You must have the timing just about right by ear which is the way the old timers (me included) used to set them up. However, I would still offer a word of caution and establish TDC so you can mark your pulley just in case. If the timing is over advanced as you are tempted on the longer run to use 4,000 rpm or more it could prove costly, worst case or weaken rings. I guess so far you haven't been going much over 3,000 rpm or so and using relatively light throttle which shouldn't be an issue. I think if it was way out it would have knocked. Guess I'm a bit obsessed about ignition timing!
Regards
David
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Post by kelsham on Apr 25, 2012 7:04:29 GMT
This thread has made me think.
I suffered from a crack in my crankshaft pulley, out from the key slot.
Tony Wood supplied a secondhand replacement.
Presumably the timing marks are different from Mk1 cars. I wonder which pulley I have fitted.
Kels.
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 25, 2012 11:28:48 GMT
Hi Kels As far as I am aware there were only two pulleys, one to be used with the Mk1 and early Mk11 cars which had the timing indicator on the bottom of the timing cover and the other for later Mk11 and all Mk111 cars that had the timing indicators on the top of the timing cover. I am not sure when the changeover occurred. My 1968 Mk11 cars had the bottom indicators and they were on the top on my 1971 Wolseley 18-85. The pulleys were interchangeable apart from the timing groove. So, if your pulley groove aligns with the timing cover marks when No1 cylinder fires you don't have a problem. If you have a pulley with the wrong groove for your timing cover indicator then you will not be able to set the timing either static or with a timing light as they will be around 150 degrees out! Regards David This thread has made me think. I suffered from a crack in my crankshaft pulley, out from the key slot. Tony Wood supplied a secondhand replacement. Presumably the timing marks are different from Mk1 cars. I wonder which pulley I have fitted. Kels. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 25, 2012 13:58:34 GMT
I probably hit lucky with the timing - I suspect it's there or there abouts. This engine has the timing marks at the bottom of the chain case, so perhaps a little bit of mix-and-match has gone on when it was rebuilt. It is also entirely possible that my alignment issues with the stobe are down to operator incompetence........  I have (in short bursts) revved the engine quite hard, but nothing sustained yet on the road. I am severely worried by one aspect of this new engine set-up. After three weeks, there are still no oil stains under the car. I have checked the oil....... Chris. |
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Post by Keef on Apr 26, 2012 0:42:32 GMT
I am severely worried by one aspect of this new engine set-up. After three weeks, there are still no oil stains under the car. I have checked the oil....... Is this the first dry B-Series? |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 26, 2012 1:01:14 GMT
Are you really sure there IS oil in the sump!!! What gasket seals did you use? I I am severely worried by one aspect of this new engine set-up. After three weeks, there are still no oil stains under the car. I have checked the oil....... Chris. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 29, 2012 22:55:13 GMT
The car and I have survived the trip to Gaydon and back. Conditions could best be described as "gruesome". Just enough constant rain there and back to ensure appalling visibility and loads of road spray. Therefore, 55mph was largely quite fast enough. I let her run a bit faster down some of the hills.
One issue I'm going to have to investigate further was rather strange - towards the end of the journey, the car decided to "idle" at about 3,000 rpm. Switched off and popped the bonnet on arrival at Gaydon. Nothing appeared to be amiss, linkages all free moving etc. Turned her back on and she was fine; and was then fine all the way back to Leeds. I have no idea what that was about.
The idle has risen slightly again, so things are definitely freeing up. I'll see about doing the oil and filter at the weekend. A quick check at the museum showed no usage and the oil was still gold!
Quick economy check shows we're doing 30.5 to the gallon. Not bad.
Chris.
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Post by Keef on Apr 30, 2012 1:08:56 GMT
Quick economy check shows we're doing 30.5 to the gallon. Not bad. Well done Chris! I can confirm the car is looking splendid!  |
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Post by indianajones on Apr 30, 2012 5:53:56 GMT
Glad to hear the engine is running in nicely mate Quick economy check shows we're doing 30.5 to the gallon. Not bad. Chris. 30.5 mpg?! How does one manage that! -Andrew |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 30, 2012 11:43:10 GMT
It's looking really good. Well done! Shame about the weather; it's been 40C+ here for a week, I think I actually prefer the UK rain! As far as your starge 3000 rpm idle, could the throttle cable have jumped and caught on the outer casing. I have vague memories of that happening to me (or my car) a long time ago. Regards David One issue I'm going to have to investigate further was rather strange - towards the end of the journey, the car decided to "idle" at about 3,000 rpm. Switched off and popped the bonnet on arrival at Gaydon. Nothing appeared to be amiss, linkages all free moving etc. Chris. |
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Post by Penguin45 on May 7, 2012 23:36:52 GMT
It was all rather strange. I suppose I should have left the engine running when I looked, but I wasn't happy with the idea of the new engine roaring away. Keef and Ahctog both suggested the cable, but it seems to be fine. We'll see, I suppose.
Bank holiday this weekend and I've put my feet up. AND - I don't regret it one little bit.
I'll do the oil change during the week. Honest.
Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Jun 5, 2012 0:07:41 GMT
750 odd miles completed by the start of the weekend. Fun time approaches...... I went off to the Tatton Park show on Sunday to join my Wolseley Owners Club chums for a day in the rain. I decided that I'd had enough of the passenger seat back falling off with alarming regularity, so Saturday saw a new one being rattled up. Stripping the seat back revealed a rather warped and broken piece of hardboard, no doubt over 40 years old.  I had picked up a new sheet during the week, and 50 split rivets arrived from the very excellent BRESCO. I needed 31, but the pack size is 50....... So, a bit of pattern making and some serious jigsaw action produced this:  You can see the multiple brackets in place.  Vinyl covering going back on. Hundreds of 6mm staples expended.  Looking pretty good........  Back on the seat. This caused the opposite problem - it was a real wrestling match to get it back on, due to the "spring" in a brand new sheet of hardboard. A couple of paint scrapers were used as levers to pop it all home and a few panels pins secured it to the blocks at the bottom of the seat backs. 140 miles later it shows no signs of movement. Job done then. Tatton Show was soggy....... Several thousand classic cars, but not many members of the public turned out.    There we and Eugenie are, getting wet. She refused to start at the end of the day and had to be bumped off. Investigation today showed that she's not charging. Various tests show that the dynamo is fine, so it looks like I'm into the RB340 regulator tomorrow. It's all good fun, honest. Chris. |
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