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Post by dave1800 on Apr 10, 2017 11:25:19 GMT
Now I'm getting confused (not difficult!). You say the condensor had failed as it had a measurable resistance at 500V (correct assumption) but then say the unit removed found a path to earth. If you mean the ET Ignition I would expect this as the output transistor has a zener (avalanche) diode across its output to clamp a voltage above 350-430 for just this purpose.
David
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 10, 2017 13:52:21 GMT
Ok, what I did was test the condenser which I removed from the car. I did this in isolation on the bench, so only the condenser was tested. This showed earth leakage figures as stated earlier. As I had a brand new condenser to hand, I repeated the same process and found no earth leakage - infinite resistance to earth. Which was good.
Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 10, 2017 23:16:58 GMT
I need to say a couple of things. One is a "sorry" to Snoopy. He's the nicest idiot I know.    He's a good mate and is about to have his entire world stood on its head forever. I know, 'cos I've already done it and survived. Just. There was only one heart attack involved. Secondly - Chinese manufacture. This is very misunderstood. The Chinese will make you anything you want, to any standard you want. If you want cheap, you get cheap, or even horrendously cheap. They make the Titan washing machine, which is in my sphere of interest, and it's an amazing thing with a fantastic build quality. It is built to a standard, by workers who are properly paid even by European standards. The problem with most of the tat we deal with over here is the buyers, not the producers. They want cheap, they get cheap so that they can undercut their competitors by 20p on the retail price, Now, I don't mind paying more for something that works long term. Our problem is how to identify what is decent and, really, you can't. I have mentioned several times the problem of buying Lucas branded stuff in green boxes. After the demise of Lucas, this was done under a licencing arrangement probably organised by the liquidators, but a lot of time has passed now. Who knows who has put what into green boxes and passed it off by now. Chris. |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 11, 2017 0:47:40 GMT
Thanks, that's what I assumed from your original post but then it became unclear. Have you ever checked the value of the capacitors to see if they are close to the nominal 0.22ufd? I don't think it is too critical but anything more than 25% above or below 0.22 ufd is probably worth rejecting. I agree with your sentiments on Chinese products; if you look at some of the technical achievemnts in China, eg their rail systems they are just incredible. It's such a shame the cheap crap often forces quality manufacturers to reduce costs to copmete and we can all end up losers. Well done with the MOT! David Ok, what I did was test the condenser which I removed from the car. I did this in isolation on the bench, so only the condenser was tested. This showed earth leakage figures as stated earlier. As I had a brand new condenser to hand, I repeated the same process and found no earth leakage - infinite resistance to earth. Which was good. Chris. |
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Post by snoopy11 on Apr 11, 2017 19:48:19 GMT
Idiot. ........ Charming. But I will take it Mr P However. As you are now singing the praises of Lucas does it mean you will be removing the Bosch condenser from the other car.   |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 11, 2017 23:02:09 GMT
IF I could find a nice Lucas condenser in a red box, I'd buy it and use it, 'cos it'll probably be made in Brum to proper standards of quality control as applied 30 or 40 years ago. If my problems continue, I'll get another Bosch condenser and figure out how to fit it to a 45D.
The defence rests m'Lud.
Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 12, 2017 1:00:46 GMT
I cannot see why the electronic ignition unit using the points requires the capacitor across them other than to facilitate easy switching back to conventional ignition. As I mentioned earlier, I would be tempted to disconnect the capacitor if there is any doubt about its integrity. David IF I could find a nice Lucas condenser in a red box, I'd buy it and use it, 'cos it'll probably be made in Brum to proper standards of quality control as applied 30 or 40 years ago. If my problems continue, I'll get another Bosch condenser and figure out how to fit it to a 45D. The defence rests m'Lud. Chris. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 13, 2017 18:03:49 GMT
 I could do without this..... rear displacer hose has failed. Grr Chris. |
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 14, 2017 12:16:29 GMT
Chris Sorry to see that; something to keep you busy over Easter, what a pain Have there been any developments with the 1100 group who are exploring possibilities for overhauling the guts of the displacers? David I could do without this..... rear displacer hose has failed. Grr Chris. |
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Post by snoopy11 on Apr 14, 2017 13:27:58 GMT
I could do without this..... rear displacer hose has failed. Grr It's CARma for calling me an idiot. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 14, 2017 15:32:19 GMT
Mick came over this morning and gave me a hand to get it all apart. Cleaned up displacer housing and painted it on the basis it could be drying whilst I dealt with the displacer hose. Of, course, one of the bolts in the alloy carrier had been previously bodged and turned into a stud. With a nut that had to be ground out, thus destroying the stud bit. So carrier off. This involved clambering into the boot with the windy gun. Both bolts broke and a chunk of floor disappeared.  Housing needed a couple of little welded repairs and cleaned up reasonably well.   Pas un lapin heureux. Chris. |
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Post by snoopy11 on Apr 14, 2017 16:42:34 GMT
Pas un lapin heureux. Have you caught something off that Peugeot That rust looks nasty. Especially as it's around the carrier. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 14, 2017 17:37:42 GMT
Have you caught something off that Peugeot Come on, come on, what does it mean? Thought you might appreciate it.... Lower bulkhead and the cross member are intact, so it was still pretty solid. It will be solider in a little while. Chris. |
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Post by snoopy11 on Apr 14, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
Have you caught something off that Peugeot Come on, come on, what does it mean? Thought you might appreciate it.... 'un lapin' Something to do with wrecking the valve seats. |
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 15, 2017 0:01:57 GMT
Nice obfuscation. Boot floor repaired.  That's now been flatted back and generally tidied. Quite comfy, working curled up in the boot. Welding can get entertaining though, as the heat spreads across the steel floor. It took several sessions. Other problems became obvious. The inner wing/boot floor joint was held together by underseal.  And after the attack of the wire wheel.  Definitely had enough for today. Chris. |
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He's a good mate and is about to have his entire world stood on its head forever. I know, 'cos I've already done it and survived. Just. There was only one heart attack involved.
