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Post by tripplescrew on Jan 1, 2016 8:26:14 GMT
As some of you may be aware my 1800 developed engine problems early last year. It would smoke on the overrun sometimes, then it started pressurising in the sump & blowing oil out of every orifice. The car did not make it to Hutton as the problem had got much worse. This winter my mate has stripped the engine down to reveal 4 broken piston rings.( How did that happen!!!) I will tell you. I received a phone call whilst at the 2014 Hutton show to say my father had been rushed into hospital & was very ill & I needed to get home A.S.A.P. So I floored the 1800 down the A1 the pedal was buried deep in the shagpile. This is the result.
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Post by Penguin45 on Jan 1, 2016 18:13:20 GMT
Unfortunate. I take it the bores are scratched up as well?
Chris.
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Post by tripplescrew on Jan 1, 2016 19:07:45 GMT
Apparently it has nipped at the top of 1 bore only. Not messing Chris, going to engineering shop for a rebore & new pistons etc etc.
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 2, 2016 1:12:08 GMT
You will still need to determine the underlying cause if you have not done so already. A crab engine, even an old one should be capable of prolonged high rpm / speed running as I proved many times in the past. The most likely causes of damage are over advanced ignition, a weak mixture and overheating because of poor water circulation in the block and or radiator, probably in that order.
regards
David
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Post by Nick RS on Jan 2, 2016 15:12:51 GMT
I would have though a 40 year old car driven flat our for a period would blow something; done the same myself on something much younger.
Hope to see it this year back in good health. - Longbridge??
Nick
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Post by tripplescrew on Jan 2, 2016 16:46:17 GMT
I agree with you Nick. You see my car wants for nothing the radiator is brand new re-cored. The ignition is electronic & set up is spot on as is the carb & everything else. There are no problems with circulation in the block she never gets warm & all hoses are replaced, the coolant is changed on a regular basis. Doing between 90mph & the ton for nearly an hour in a 40yr old car is the problem, they will do those speeds "Yes" but not for that length of time unless the engine has been modified in some way.
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Post by Penguin45 on Jan 2, 2016 17:40:28 GMT
90mph? AndrewA would still be in third......
Hope you get it sorted.
Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 3, 2016 1:32:00 GMT
One of my my Mk11 cars used to do trips of 150 miles each way several times a year where 100 or so of those miles were often at the speeds you suggested. The engine had done over 100K at the time so was well past its prime. Admittedly that was using leaded fuel. I would still think it worthwhile checking he distributor maximum advance. Electronic ignition unless it is programmable still relies of the weights and stops. Just a few degrees over advanced could lead to the kind of damage you experienced.
Regards
David
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Post by andrewa on Jan 3, 2016 7:05:43 GMT
What a pain - hope it all goes smoothly. Did the same thing to my Dads 1800 30+ years ago - not sure he ever got over it! Per Alan Clark "Classics are like horses...do not ride them too far without rest or water"! I like to think it stepped up to the mark when required - albeit to its detriment in the end.
Andrew
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Post by midnightblue on Jan 31, 2016 19:20:55 GMT
I've just driven my 'crab from Grantham to Verona and back, at autoroute speeds, on unleaded, using chains where the snow made them necessary. I added tetraethyl lead at each refill. It is my intention to have the valves hardened within 2016, because I'm running out of 4ePb, which it is now illegal to sell.
I weakened the mixture at 1000 m, the SU carb runs rich at altitude, which can lead to plug fouling.
I *checked* oil, grease, transmission fluid etc in Verona. Apart from transmission fluid (there is a leak which I intend to get fixed soon - it's an engine-out job which I can't handle on my own) all were fine.
Normally the 'crab sticks to Lincolnshire backroads, and 50 km/h.
The engine got a bit hot and bothered climbing an Alp in snow, and if the temperature gauge moves above normal I switch off and let it cool down. Microseconds later a Swiss police car arrived and wanted to know the problem. Apparently they attend every breakdown in snow because there is a risk of hypothermia to the people in the car. I explained the problem was not insufficient heat, but too much.
I think it was the transmission which was getting a bit hot and bothered, does anyone have experience of installing a temperature sensor in the BW35 autobox?
The roadside interview was unnecessarily prolonged because Swiss police were amazed that I'd drive a 47 year old car across the Alps in winter ('my father drove this very same model through the Alps regularly. These are very dependable cars.'), because one of the officers wanted to practice her Ladin, which is Switzerland's fourth language and which very few people speak, and because both officers were very attractive young women. They then drove behind me, blue lights flashing, at 80 km/h, to the border. I think the engine was happier for their attention. At the border, shake hands, profuse thanks from me, and a couple of sweet Swiss smiles and I was on my way.
While I wouldn't swear an oath on it, I'd say this is the first time a 'crab owner has conducted an interview in Ladin (also known as Rumantsch, Rhaeto-Roman, Sursilvan or Sutsilvan - there are lots of dialects). Although we could have conversed in English (they were both fluent) French or Italian (We are all fluent) or German (they are fluent, I can pick my way through a sentence to find the verb) we spoke about my car in a language which, like the 'crab, is rare, venerable, and refuses to die.
MidnightBlue
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Post by Penguin45 on Jan 31, 2016 20:03:32 GMT
Brave man - well done!
Chris.
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Post by andrewa on Jan 31, 2016 20:50:48 GMT
Awesome - got any pics?
Andrew
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Post by midnightblue on Feb 1, 2016 17:26:58 GMT
Awesome - got any pics? Andrew I don't actually own a camera. There is one in my BlackBerry, but I'm still learning how to use it to make phone calls. As you can't get tetraethyl lead any more, you can use Castrol valvemaster plus, but in the long term it's cheaper to get the valve seats hardened. Engine out, £ 200 or so, no more worries about running the engine at speed. I'll tell you about my experience when I've had the job done. It's not something I consider myself qualified to tackle on my own. As my father's Austin 1800S Mk II used to go from Whitehall to Milan regularly in the early 1970s, and he didn't have a clue what went on under the bonnet, I don't see any reason why a Wolseley 18/85 shouldn't do the trip on a regular basis, especially as it gets a full service every 1500 km. It hasn't even been around the clock. There is a sort of clippy thingy that presses down the top of the recirculating thingy that needs replacing. I made a replacement out of coathanger, but I may need to speak to P45 about a proper replacement, once I have worked out how to take a photograph of it. --- There is a certain amount of curled lip in the RREC (Rolls Royce Enthusiasts' Club) about cars which arrive on a car transporter, drive 20 metres to receive their concours trophy, and 20 metres more back to the car transporter. Cars are meant to be driven. Yes, I do want to restore the car back to the condition is was when it rolled off the line, but it's also transport. And perfectly adequate transport at that. --- There is some irony that my father's LHD Austin 1800 spent most of its life on the left, and most of the km I have done in the 18/85, which is RHD, have been on the right. (-: MidnightBlue
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Post by Penguin45 on Feb 1, 2016 18:58:37 GMT
Clip on top of the PCV valve is 27H 7760. In stock at Leacy Classics - HERE. P+P will no doubt cost more than the clip. Chris.
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Post by midnightblue on Feb 1, 2016 19:28:59 GMT
Clip on top of the PCV valve is 27H 7760. In stock at Leacy Classics - HERE. P+P will no doubt cost more than the clip. Chris. Brill! Thanks! MB
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