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Post by indianajones on Sept 4, 2014 23:42:08 GMT
Work without tea? Damn it man, I'm British - nothing would happen without tea. Now spot the penguin...... Chris. Amen, or a beer if it's summer. And I spot it! -Andrew
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 4, 2014 23:48:56 GMT
After months of filling, sanding, painting, filling again, sanding, painting (repeat again and again) mine still has pinpricks, and in some cases craters, even bits I have missed altogether. I have given up for this year. As long as it is viewed from 6ft+ away it looks OK and will do until spring There are times when you do just have to walk away. I want to do this one once, so I'm going to do one concentrated area at a time and hopefully get each one right. Maybe. Previous restorations (both Morris Minors) have taught me that the filling/finishing bit is the most difficult/frustrating so your dust cloud is set to get much worse. Start to worry when you have to notify the CAA about the potential hazard to passing aircraft I don't know quite how much of the forum you've read, but I did the Leeds City College Classic Vehicle Restoration Course last year and thoroughly enjoyed it. The bit we all struggled with was the use of filler. It's misunderstood stuff. Used correctly it's a good tool, but it is so difficult to achieve the invisible line, the faded-out edge or avoid the lump that shows up with the first coat of primer. I suspect that in the old days when they'd have done this with lead, whilst being a lot more complicated, they had more time to get this sort of stuff right. As for the dust cloud - LBA is less than a mile away. I hope they don't get one of those volcano reports dropped on them! Rear arches are next; not too much to do there. The front valance is going to be the big messy one. There's an awful lot of fabrication down at that end which will need sorting out. Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Sept 5, 2014 0:48:12 GMT
I recall that gritty plastic taste of tea and filler dust! You should see some of the work they do with filler here in Thailand. I've seen "repairs" using a quarter of an inch filler over whole panel size areas perfectly sculptured. They are like highly skilled plasterers. I thought I was an expert (my opinion!) at detecting any filler at one time, but these guys are incredible. My US friend who worked on car body repairs for many years is astounded too. The filler is so unbelievably cheap here, I seen a 4 litre tin for a couple of pounds retail in the local DIY store (which is 3x size of a B&Q superstore). It seems to last well too but of course there's no frost to force it out. David Isn't the saying along the lines of "filler, if used correctly, is 99% wasted" ? I also note the cup of tea in the work area, I'm guilty of that too hah -Andrew
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Post by peppib on Sept 5, 2014 14:46:49 GMT
Chris,
Yes I did see that you had completed the restoration course. A panel beater once told me that applying filler was like icing a cake.
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 5, 2014 20:48:06 GMT
And today, the other side of filling. Four hours toil with nothing to show for it. Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Sept 6, 2014 0:54:27 GMT
Maybe you should have been a dentist you would have received a large cheque for four hours filling And today, the other side of filling. Four hours toil with nothing to show for it. Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 6, 2014 11:25:42 GMT
Aha! Never thought of that. I've obviously missed my true calling. Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 11, 2014 19:25:34 GMT
Been doing a bit of re-fabricating. Wasn't happy with the rear n/s corner. O/s - corner rolls under nicely. N/s - sticky-out bit right on the corner - just not quite right. Out with the slitting disc, cut 5 slots and release the bottom edge underneath. Roll it all in a bit and weld it up again. Flatted back. And the ubiquitous dollop of filler. Much happier with that. Filler work has been on-going. Things are looking much better now. All very slow and tedious. Looks much better with a blow over of primer. I've started on the front valance. I suspect it's going to take for ever. Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 12, 2014 19:35:39 GMT
After the 4 th fill and flat - wipe of stopper. Done - not bad. Now on into the wheelarches...... Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Sept 13, 2014 1:46:15 GMT
There is light at the end of this very long tunnel. Excellent work.
Have you ever used spray on body filler. I believe it is used here to fill whole panels at a time to get the desired effect in a short time. Not sure of whether it' a good idea in the English climate?
David
Done - not bad. Now on into the wheelarches......
Chris.[/quote]
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Post by cptkennykidna on Sept 13, 2014 14:42:07 GMT
why do you waste your time on crap like that, interior is O.K. but those sills etc urgh, I know you guy's have harsh conditions that the cars have gone through , but think of what I have to go through. I have thrown away enough parts to drive the Queen Mary , and I liked her too. why don't you guy's ask me for a whole sill section, why don't you ask me for any thing
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Post by Penguin45 on Sept 13, 2014 15:43:08 GMT
Ken,
I wonder if you'd understand why I find that post very hurtful?
Chris.
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Post by pete1800 on Sept 13, 2014 19:59:47 GMT
Is there any need for comments like that ?
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Post by peppib on Sept 14, 2014 7:56:28 GMT
Is there any need for comments like that ? +1 Chris - you are doing a great job and providing an educational (and entertaining) thread
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Post by foglaursen on Sept 14, 2014 9:22:31 GMT
Is there any need for comments like that ? +1 Chris - you are doing a great job and providing an educational (and entertaining) thread I totally agree. Peter
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