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Post by lankytim on May 7, 2011 15:05:42 GMT
Hi Gang.
I have bagged a set of Maxi doors that I intend to refurbish and then fit to my Wolseley at a later date. I've read they are nearly identical to crab doors but have a number of small differences. Can anyone tell me what they are? I have noted the rubbing strip along the sides of them which are held on with nuts/rivets meaning there will be holes in the skin which will need welding up. Any other differences?
Also, can Maxi rear arches be made to fit the crab?
Many thanks!
Tim
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Post by threelitre on May 7, 2011 21:41:42 GMT
There is a minor difference on the inside to hold the door trims. The Maxi has some tabs welded onto the tops to keep the trim in place. Mk3 Landcrab is the same. Otherwise Mk2 landcrab and Maxi are the same.
The rear arches are way too different: Maxis have an angle in the profile and a smaller diameter. Easier to shape your own bits if you do not need a full arch.
Regards,
Alexander
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Post by Keef on May 8, 2011 14:11:29 GMT
The Maxi has some tabs welded onto the tops to keep the trim in place. Mk3 Landcrab is the same. Interesting: one of my doors has tabs, but the rest don't. I've no reason to think they were off different cars as they are the same colour and had the same door trims, but ......    |
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Post by tommydp on May 8, 2011 15:22:28 GMT
I fitted Maxi doors on the left of my mk 2 Morris. There is one more minor difference: There is a welded vertical panel across the big, lower hole in font on mk 2 front doors, not on the Maxi. Just below the window winder. This is to hold the two plastic mounts you fasten the front doorpocket screws two.
I didn't notice this was missing on the Maxi door until finishing the door pockets and panels, so I just cut the panel off the rusty mk2 door, and just screwed it onto the Maxi door:-) If you look closely at the previous pictures of the Wolseley Six doors, your left door has this panel, not your right:-) So there's a different right front door. I'm not surprised if this was done at the factory, they used what they had at hand I guess. If they ran out of 1800/ 6 etc doors they grabbed one meant for a Maxi I guess:-)
Believe me, I have a Marina with autumn leaf brown seats and doorpanels etc. Carpet and window seals etc are navy blue though:-) Yes, it's original:-)
Regards, Tommy
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Post by tommydp on May 8, 2011 16:29:56 GMT
Regarding my last reply, I must admit I'm not sure how front door pockets are arranged in the Wolseley crabs. I've never had or broken one of those. Perhaps you don't need this panel I'm talking about after all:-)
Anyway, mk 2 models need them, as they have shorter door pockets than the mk 1. Mk 3s were never sold here, so I'm not sure about them either. Perhaps they didn't have door pockets at all, like the Maxi?
Btw, it seems some workers wrote their name in hidden painted parts:-) At least one of my Maxi doors was signed "Alan" in the paint behind the door panel:-) I found that cool in some way, so left it when painting rest of the door Blue Royale:-)
Have a look, perhaps your door is painted by Alan, too:-)
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Post by lankytim on May 8, 2011 18:53:59 GMT
Good news then, they will fit my Crusty Crab! I have found that the drivers side rear door is a bit too rusty in the bottom of the frame to be worthwhile repairing. If anyone knows to a good one, I may be interested!  The rear arches are way too different: Maxis have an angle in the profile and a smaller diameter. Easier to shape your own bits if you do not need a full arch. Oh well, I knew it was a long shot! I'm not massively worried about originality- I just want a solid bodyshell that is free (or as free as it can be) of filler. Crab arches are mega difficult to get hold of so started looking around for suitable subsitutes. I realised the profile on the maxi arch is incorrect, but it would not have looked out of place on a crab and they are commonly available. Seeing as the arch is physically smaller it looks like i'll be welding in patches and shaping with filler instead! |
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Post by threelitre on May 8, 2011 20:48:07 GMT
Ah, yes - the mounting strip for the door pockets. These are only fitted to cars with the short, deep pockets. I.e. Mk2 Austin and Morris models, also some early 3litres and late Mk1 Wolseley 18/85s. Maxis and Mk3 Austin/Morris models basically had the same door trims with pockets fixed to the trim. Mk3 and Wolseley 6 door trims will need the tabs at the top but not the strips to hold the door pockets...
Alexander
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Post by Keef on May 9, 2011 13:46:07 GMT
There is one more minor difference: Only one? I thought there was something different with the locks? [Ping Penguin45 here ] |
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Post by tommydp on May 9, 2011 14:06:48 GMT
Identical locks on mk2, and 3 I guess, and Maxi. Mk 1 has other locks though, so you can't fit a mk1 door directly to a mk2/ 3 or Maxi without work to the lock area:-)
Also, have you noticed mk1 doors are far heavier than the others? Or is it just me, or bad memory? :-)
These doors are really interesting:-)
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Post by Penguin45 on May 9, 2011 23:47:02 GMT
The off side doors on my car are adapted from Maxi ones. The glaring error is that the Maxi door has a rounded top rear corner, rather than a pointy one. The latch mechanisms were totally different between the cars, so much so that the edges of the door had to be cut off and new (sic) from the old doors welded in.  Being a MkI car, mine has the "latch over peg" mechanism - the Maxi was a "latch into a loop" arrangement. Still, it works and you can't see the join  . P45. |
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Post by threelitre on May 10, 2011 10:55:42 GMT
This must be a difference between Mk1 and Mk2 cars... My experience is with Mk2, 3litre de Luxe and later doors - and they are the same apart from the minor differences for mounting interior trim detailed above. Maxi never came with the Mk1 locks, 3litres with these locks are very (very, very, very) rare (I know of one).
Which point is rounced that is not on a 'crab?
Regards,
Alexander
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Post by Penguin45 on May 10, 2011 18:00:19 GMT
Top rear corner of the back doors.
Chris.
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Post by lankytim on May 10, 2011 19:24:13 GMT
Have you got any pics of this pointy bit thats different? I'm struggling to imagine where you mean....
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Post by threelitre on May 10, 2011 23:36:13 GMT
Ah - found it. I have seen the sharp corner on a picture of the earliest 3litre known to me. It still has the Mk1 doors with the locking pin - and the rear door has a sharp corner on the rear top edge. The doors of our Mk2 1800s and my deLuxe 3litres do have the rounded corner (as do my Maxis...)
Regards,
Alexander
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