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Post by paddymk2 on Jun 6, 2018 8:01:53 GMT
The car is a MK2 Automatic; occasionally - especially when pulling away uphill the car seem to not get properly into gear. It kind of feels like its slipping or ½ in gear.
Upon start-up and while idling there is a noise emanating from the transmission. Sounded a bit like a wooded spoon rattling inside an empty tin can. The sound didn’t last too long, but that coupled with the drips of transmission oil on the garage floor make me think the trans oil is low.
I readjusted the gear selector cable: the selection is good.
I find the trans dipstick reallyhard to read. On the bottom 8mm of the dipstick there’s a full a generous bead of oil, but beyond that the oil is to one edge of the dip stick, and it hard to tell if it’s more of a smear or truly the oil level. (I’ve been letting the engine warm up and switching through the gears and checking while engine is running.) So I added about ½ litre oil (Castrol, Type F.) Probably overfilled. But no real improvement. The oil did look kind of bubbly (frothy) and came about an inch higher up the dipstick.
It’s not desperate to drive, in fact it might just need me to get used to the car.
I’m wondering should I spend the money and take a transmission specialist to get it properly checked? Or should I just live with it for now?
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 5, 2019 20:56:43 GMT
Took the car in for auto transmission service.
They had no problem taking the sump guard off (an putting on again.)
I had previously sucked out the oil through the filler port (since I couldn't get access past the sump guard)
There was a bit of gunk in the sump filters but not as much as I expected - some metal filings.
The bands were checked/ adjusted (he said the reverse band was at end of range.)
There was a hairline crack in the solenoid valve - could be leaking under pressure.
The suggestion was to take out the transmission (and engine) and continue exploratory surgery.
But it going to be more expensive and maybe a lot more "money for nothing"
Not sure how to proceed.
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 6, 2019 2:21:45 GMT
Difficult to know what is best. Is the solenoid valve accessible and can it be pressure tested and replaced if necessary? I believe some of the components may be hard to find, I suggest contacting Tony Wood for an updated position. If the oil was drained completely and refilled with the specified volume it should be correct.
I guess the answer comes down to how much you are prepared to spend and how much you plan to drive the car. It may be worth waiting for a good second hand transmission to become available, but that would need to be checked over before installation. Hopefully someone here has knowledge of the autobox and can better advise you.
David
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 6, 2019 9:47:01 GMT
Thanks Dave,
Patience is the virtue in this matter.
It's not like the car is not drive-able its just a bit of anxiousness and will power to get traction.
I would imagine parts for the transmission are fairly common since it was used on lots of cars includes Ford Falcons here.
I was sort of hoping that there'd be a know problem fix.
I didn't try manually selecting the gears (L) till got a bit of speed - could try that out(?)
A drop and swap unit might be a wait but probably the right approach is to wait.
Cheers for the new year.
Paddy
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Post by andrewa on Jan 6, 2019 9:50:42 GMT
Morning - not an expert (on anything!) but my suggestion would be to replace the solenoid valve - particularly if this can be done in situ and see how you get on. All other obvious culprits seem to be ok.
Good luck.
Andrew
PS Your reply above came in whilst typing! Totally agree with patience approach - I'm always doing the opposite and probably spending unnecessarily!
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 6, 2019 11:56:15 GMT
I would never have guessed  David Totally agree with patience approach - I'm always doing the opposite and probably spending unnecessarily! |
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 8, 2019 1:38:42 GMT
Thanks Guys
After the sump guard plate is off and the pan cover removed it looks very accessible.
I spoke to a transmission shop here - he was very familiar with the BW35 and suggested that if its the main servo it will cause it not getting into second.
He went a bit quiet when I mentioned it was an 1800... The same but different
Paddy
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 9, 2019 6:31:46 GMT
That's not the first time someone has reported hearing a groan from a mechanic in Australia when the Landcrab is mentioned. I wonder what they think of modern cars where it can take three hours to change a spark plug and risk it being seized in the cylinder head. Makes the crab look a doddle.
David
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 10, 2019 2:12:50 GMT
We live in hope.
Hope that someone will recognise the car as a valuable piece of heritage of mankind's ingenuity.
Hope that the fix will solve the problem
Hope that the bill wont be more than twice what I expected.
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 29, 2019 11:12:22 GMT
Sometimes hope doesn't cut it. After putting it off till we got a not so hot day I took the car into the local expert. I'm happy to say he test drove it to before getting it up to diagnose the problem. But unhappy to hear the verdict, the clutch is slipping even into first and it needs a trans rebuild  shucks |
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Post by snoopy11 on Jan 29, 2019 18:08:36 GMT
the clutch is slipping even into first and it needs a trans rebuild shucks By trans rebuild do you just mean a new clutch and plate. I would be amazed if the whole gearbox needs a rebuild. They are bulletproof A clutch change is really an engine out job. Not hard to do but you would benefit from finding someone who has done it before as it’s a couple of hours work when you know what you are doing |
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Post by Penguin45 on Jan 30, 2019 0:55:43 GMT
Oi! Pay attention at the back there. Automatic, therefore serious black magic. C. |
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 30, 2019 8:04:41 GMT
Picked up the car and had a chat with the man. Kinda adamant that it may be a BW35 but its quite a different thing than in a local ford He compared it more to a BW35 in a Citroen SM (trying to butter me up before letting me down) and said as well as being costly it would be beyond him (didn't want the warranty risk...) I could try to find something with a bad body like this link1or this linkManual. |
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Post by dave1800 on Jan 30, 2019 8:55:35 GMT
Yes it is a BW35, sorry to hear of your problems. What happened about the solenoid valve, was it leaking? I guess you may have tested the car t osee how much it is slipping. You can do this by by driving driving under light load on a flat road, checking the rpm and speedo. Then repeat driving up hill to see if the rpm are higher for the same speed and gear. I know very little about auto boxes so someone here may have a better way of confirming. If it is a gear selection problem only then the suspect solenoid may be the issue.
I couldn't get your links to work, I had a look and you haven't included the url - the second box down - delete the auto-filled "http://" - first, (most sites are https now) then copy the full url)
David
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Post by paddymk2 on Jan 30, 2019 12:25:14 GMT
there's this - with a sun roof! link1Or this - that's only up the road link2Or this auto interstate link3The guy didn't really want to get into it. And said that in reality its not just slipping going into second but is also slipping into first too. Meaning that is not a basic as the servo. |
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