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Post by paddymk2 on Apr 29, 2018 12:16:45 GMT
Hi there,
The rear windows on both side were stuck tight.
On both sides the plastic winder handles had been snapped off.
I managed to get one new one and repair the other handle.
I took off one of the door cards to have a look and after squirting with some WD40 managed to wind the window.
Its still very stiff and feels as much as anywhere to be rubbing on the glass.
I thought to wedge up and duct tape up the glass and take out the winder scissor thing; clean it and lubricate properly.
Is there anything special to watch out for?
Cheers
Paddy
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Post by dave1800 on Apr 29, 2018 13:12:52 GMT
The short answer is yes. I recall Chris dscribing it as trying to fight an octopus. He may be able to suggest an easier way of freeing it up without dismantling. Any progress on the engine?
David
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Post by Penguin45 on Apr 29, 2018 23:32:59 GMT
Not really. The mechanism rarely breaks, although I have had to deal with a broken tooth on the primary cog. They do just become bone dry, dirty and jam.
Drop the mechanism off its two mounting points, and slide it off the rail at the bottom of the glass. Lift and rotate the glass and remove to the inside side of the door. The mechanism can then be eased out through the larger of the two lower door orifices. Clean, polish, copper grease everything that moves. Check the channels and liners through which the glass moves. They are often in an appalling state.
Pop down to the offy and get a tray of tinnies (I think that's the southern vernacular.). Re-assemble.... After about three attempts, the first tinnie may be cracked and consumed. The problem is really that you need more than two hands to position the glass and mechanism, whilst at the same time allowing the glass to be re-inserted onto the rail and the mechanism to be lined up to the mounting holes.
It is a patience job. Oh, and do one at a time. It took me ages to figure out that the mechanisms had been put back in the wrong doors on mine.
Good luck,
Chris.
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Post by paddymk2 on May 1, 2018 3:05:47 GMT
Ha! I was just hoping you'd say spray it with Miracle-Whip silicone emulsion and everything will glide into position.
Looks like I'll have to bribe my unwilling child to get her hands grimy.
Thanks for the advice - I like the comments about one at a time.
Hi Dave - the new kitchen appliances have shunted me out of the garage. So I'm doing filling-in bits for a few weeks.
Regarsd
Paddy
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Post by dave1800 on May 1, 2018 13:25:15 GMT
Be careful there can be some nasty sharp edges inside the door. I fully understand that the kitchen must be your priority  David Ha! Looks like I'll have to bribe my unwilling child to get her hands grimy. Hi Dave - the new kitchen appliances have shunted me out of the garage. So I'm doing filling-in bits for a few weeks. Regarsd Paddy |
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Post by paddymk2 on May 6, 2018 6:59:04 GMT
Of course the rear RHS scissor thing came out easily enough. I cleaned and lubricated the parts and the slides. Fitting it back in was a bit more fiddly - but by sliding the knobs on to the slides and using a clip to hold them in place I was evenually able to open up the scissor thing and screw it into the door. I did it one side at a time as per Chris's note. But I did notice the "L" stamped on parts. I thought if it had been in that side and operated (if stiffly) that it must be the correct side,and may be the L referred to something else like the component or orientation. Now I've opened up and removed the part from the LHS and lo and behold its stamped, "R". Could the same guy who worked on Chris's car have had a go on my green goddess? And if it is in the wrong way - would that mean the coil spring is pushing the wrong way?  |
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Post by Penguin45 on May 6, 2018 8:18:57 GMT
Oh no... When wound down, the window should drop fully into the door. With the mechanisms in the wrong doors I could only get the windows to drop just over half way.
Chris.
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Post by paddymk2 on May 6, 2018 9:40:46 GMT
Its weird, because it does go up and down fully (with a spanner and some WD40.) Here's how it sits inside the door. I undid the bolts holding the regulator, squashed it and extracted it without rotating the winder.
 So to wind it down from there the 1/4 cog wheel is rotated clockwise - compressing the spring.  Hence , if the spring is compressing on the way down then I'll call it correct and forget about the L, R stamp. Cheers Paddy |
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Post by dave1800 on May 6, 2018 11:16:05 GMT
I thought you would have fun! Did you spot any part numbers - from what I can determine the Front left was CZD 1777, Front right CZD 1776, Rear left CZD 1139 and Rear right CZD 1138
David
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Post by paddymk2 on May 19, 2018 0:16:28 GMT
Windows all back together and operating. No, nothing like those codes stamped anywhere. Seems to be right way round...
Cheers
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