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Post by kelsham on Aug 17, 2011 13:29:04 GMT
After moving the new seal for my rear screen around the garage for several years I finally got round to fitting it.
I had read about the string trick but my workshop manual advises fitting the seal to the body, then the windscreen to the seal.
I soon knew that the decision to delay the replacment had been wise.
What a job. Just fitting the rubber needed all my strength.
Because it was the seal for the windscreen being used for the rear screen it needed cutting down and glueing back together. I used super glue. I am told the rear seals are no longer available.
With the rubber fitted it became apparent it was not a one man job. After persuading the wife to help and endangering our relationship by fits of shouting at her when the screen bounced off the body work I gave up in much the same place i had started.
I decided to seek male help and a neighbour obliged. together we managed to get the screen to enter the lower groove by sliding it in with one end raised. We then used hardwood wedges I cut on my bandsaw to persuade it into place.
At one point as we tried to get the top of the screen seated into the rubber, he was inside the car lifting the seal while i was outside prising it into place.
The miracle is that the glass survived the treatment. Does anyone have any advice as to the sealant I should use before trying to fit the locking strip?
I am wondering whether to buy the special tool to fit the strip or should I try to make something up.
Regards kels.
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Post by tommydp on Aug 17, 2011 20:56:17 GMT
Hi, Kels! I'm afraid I haven't fitted a screen to these cars so can't be much help here.
I had a windscreen workshop fitting both screens and new seals after I resprayed the car. They did a marvellous job, however they said the chrome strip was very difficult to fit, so I suppose you need the tool for this. I got the seals from Earlpart, if I remember correctly and they were both front screen seals. Not sure how they made this fit the rear, but it's totally tight and looks great. And we have lots of rain here:-)
Good luck!
Regards, Tommy:-)
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Post by Penguin45 on Aug 17, 2011 21:21:38 GMT
I was unaware that the rear screen should be fitted in the manner you described, so Adi and I fitted it with the string method in about 20 minutes. Sorry about that.........  I have used CAPTAIN TOLLEY'S to seal the rubbers with complete success. I got my bottle from FROST RESTORATION. Chris. |
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 18, 2011 3:34:30 GMT
Kels
Perhaps you should have asked advice from this forum before tackling one of those, possibly once in a life-time, horrible jobs!
I did fit a front "chrome" strip without the tool, I won't tell you how long it took but it was no fun. The next time I managed to borrow a tool and it was about a hundred times faster.
See these videos (there are probably better ones out there)
Hope Mrs Kels is still speaking to you
regards
David
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Post by kelsham on Aug 18, 2011 15:40:31 GMT
Yes the wife is still speaking to me, I would like to have watched as the screen was fitted using the string method was it front or rear?
I had a lot of trouble even getting the seal fitted by itself to the body, maybe my rubber had hardened with age while being moved round the garage.
I am bidding on a tool to fit the insert at present. the friend who helped me has a MG screen to fit shortly seems like more practice soon.
Regards Kels.
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Post by kelsham on Aug 24, 2011 15:51:30 GMT
I won the tool on ebay and when it arrived I decided to fit the chrome strip. The experts who fitted the strip to the Mini on the video suggested by Dave must come from a different Planet to me.
I was spoilt by the choice of wire tools to fit into the handle. One seemed to small. The next to large. In the end I squeezed the larger loop in the vice and assembled it with the nylon roller into the handle.
I will not go into the next two hours except to say that the nylon roller kept bending away sideways. and the wire loop kept popping out of the groove causing the chrome strip to jump out with it. Might have been easier with help. My neighbour was no where to be found. He had learned his lesson earlier.
Eventually determination, and further closing up of the loop in the vice, had the strip fitting badly. I went round with a screwdriver and eased the stubborn parts into place. Nexty time I will probably take my car to an expert.
The age of the rubber seal and strip may have been a contributing factor, they must have been around waiting to be fitted for seven or eight years.
regards Kels.
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Post by Penguin45 on Aug 24, 2011 17:25:41 GMT
You got there, that's the main thing. Plenty of soapy water helps.
Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 25, 2011 4:09:23 GMT
Sorry to hear you had problems. My experience with the tool was to replace a corroded plastic chrome strip with a new one. While it wasn't anything like as fast as on the video it only took around 10-15 minutes using a liberal amount of Fairy Liquid. I think the big difference is that the rubber was still fairly soft, it didn't come with any choice of wire fittings so maybe slightly different. Funny that your neighbour disappeared, can't think why! regards David The experts who fitted the strip to the Mini on the video suggested by Dave must come from a different Planet to me. The age of the rubber seal and strip may have been a contributing factor, they must have been around waiting to be fitted for seven or eight years. regards Kels. |
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Post by kelsham on Aug 25, 2011 8:56:16 GMT
Yes glad it is over, I think that the main problem was the tool I purchased. As I reported earlier it appears that the tool has to be a precise fit to the rubber and sealing strip.
The smaller wire loop was too tight to allow the sealing strip to fit through it. The larger loop was too large to enter into the window seal. when I tightened it up in the vice at first it was still too large and kept jumping out. The nylon roller is assembled onto two spring wires and as pressure was applied the nylon tipped sideways. It is all a poor fit in the handle. The locking mechanism is a grub screw onto the four wires.
With a better fit and with the tool built stronger I can see how it would work well. I wonder if the strip is the same size as fitted to the Mini? Anyone Know?
Regards Kels.
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 25, 2011 10:42:46 GMT
I think that the tool I borrowed was meant for a mini so I think the strips are the same - apart from the length. Now just track down those Youtube video makers!
regards
David
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Post by indianajones on Aug 13, 2013 8:17:05 GMT
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but just curious if screen rubbers can still be found? same again for the chrome stripes
Cheers,
Andrew
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Post by tommydp on Aug 14, 2013 20:13:55 GMT
I think Earlpart still supply them. They've also had some of them on ebay.
Tommy
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