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Post by dave1800 on Jun 4, 2013 2:53:23 GMT
Hi Andrew If you become a member of the new Australian group website www.austineighteenhundred.com.au/index.htmlyou will have access to BMC service bulletins where there is a lot of info on the various tie rods and upper arms tie rods and nylock nuts that still come undone - and a cure. Hope you have a good trip South and that your hydraulic brake fluid leak isn't into the servo. Regards David But of course I see the old ones are nylocks too, I failed to notice that when doing the job originally. -Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Jul 14, 2013 6:58:17 GMT
Car has made it down south, only two issues, my new battery became flat and some heavy handed delivery man broke my interior drivers door handle. Not sure if I can fix it or not. Will need to post a photo up, but my pc is dead so I'll see what I can do.
Also the brake fluid I put in her to limp her home left the reservoir over night so there's a serious leak somewhere, I'll take a look at the master cylinder as I don't recall seeing any puddles under the wheels while she was in storage.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 14, 2013 10:03:53 GMT
Worth checking why the new battery went flat - see if there is any current discharge over and above a few m/a. If there is pull the connector off the alternator to ensure a diode / diode pack hasn't failed next check if the boot light is stuck on. How about the reversing light you fixed - is it wired through the ignition? It could be the lights were accidentally left on or a door open? As for the brake fluid, as nothing is visible on the floor from the wheel areas, have a look at the brake master cylinder where the push rod actuates. If nothing is visible there check all of the pipes and hoses for any signs of fluid, take of the brake drums. After that it only leaves the servo and you want to discount every other source before a servo rebuild which is expensive. Regards David Car has made it down south, only two issues, my new battery became flat and some heavy handed delivery man broke my interior drivers door handle. Not sure if I can fix it or not. Will need to post a photo up, but my pc is dead so I'll see what I can do. Also the brake fluid I put in her to limp her home left the reservoir over night so there's a serious leak somewhere, I'll take a look at the master cylinder as I don't recall seeing any puddles under the wheels while she was in storage. Cheers, Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Jul 14, 2013 10:56:31 GMT
Really hoping it's not the servo. I'm thinking master cylinder as the fluid is going so quickly, as the servo is a little higher than the m/c if I recall correctly.
-Andrew
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 14, 2013 11:19:24 GMT
Yes, if the fluid's gone without using the foot brake it shouldn't drain into the servo as long as the car is flat. regards David Really hoping it's not the servo. I'm thinking master cylinder as the fluid is going so quickly, as the servo is a little higher than the m/c if I recall correctly. -Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Jul 27, 2013 23:54:31 GMT
With the help of my father in law on the phone we figured out what was going on. Seems the master cylinder has been leaking into the servo, and the fluid has been going into the manifold via the hose between the two. This explains the huge amount of smoke that I had when I started her before the move and at the other end. So how to fix it? I'm assuming the seals on the master cylinder have failed, thus the brake fluid has entered the servo. Is the servo munted? or can it be saved? imageshack.com/a/img266/9681/2q7k.jpgCheers, Andrew
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 28, 2013 0:52:49 GMT
I believe you will find it is the seals on the servo that have failed and not the brake master cylinder. The servo should have a brake fluid feed all the time and not leak. It looks like a Girling Mk11B servo (can someone confirm please as other servos were fitted in Australasia made by PBR) in which case there is a rebuild kit available. These kits are expensive and before purchase you should examine the bores of the servo. If they are worn or scored a rebuild may not last long if at all. There are several companies offering rebuilt servos but they are all expensive and some do not have new internals , only a new diaphragm and rubber seals. In the UK I know that a Lockheed conversion has been fairly popular, I think Chris has one. Get advice from someone who has experience of where to buy good servos locally if that's possible. Good luck regards David With the help of my father in law on the phone we figured out what was going on. Seems the master cylinder has been leaking into the servo, and the fluid has been going into the manifold via the hose between the two. This explains the huge amount of smoke that I had when I started her before the move and at the other end. So how to fix it? I'm assuming the seals on the master cylinder have failed, thus the brake fluid has entered the servo. Is the servo munted? or can it be saved? imageshack.com/a/img266/9681/2q7k.jpgCheers, Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Jul 28, 2013 3:04:52 GMT
I think it's a Mk. II servo (going by the look and Haynes manual. Also I believe this was a UK build as I don't think they made Wolseley's downundder).
Yea, Earlpart has them for 430GBP (yikes!)
I'll talk to the club down here and Tony Wood, they might be able to point me in the right direction.
-Andrew
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Post by Penguin45 on Jul 28, 2013 19:55:19 GMT
Yup, that's a Girling Powerstop IIB. If you want to keep it, I'd suggest a rather more thorough approach than just fitting the very expensive seal kit. Always a bit hit and miss, just replacing the seals, even if the bores of the cylinders look good.
Spend a bit more and get the cylinders sleeved with stainless inserts. Then fit the seal kit and you'll never have to worry about the servo ever again. It is an expensive option, but it works.
I fitted a Lockheed servo after last years rebuild. It was a cheap option, but involved re-organising the engine bay. The vacuum tank fitted to the bulkhead, thus displacing the header tank. I also had to make up new brake lines from the master to the servo and back to the valve assembly. Not difficult, but it did change the look of the engine bay.
Or - you find a suitable one down at your end of the world. David has mentioned the PBR servo; there may be others. The main thing is to find one with the right bias ratio - 3:1.
Bear in mind that the remote servo is a pretty much obsolete beast in these days of dual circuit brake systems, so apart from the reproduction Lockheed-style ones to be found on the likes of eBay, all these servos will be at least 30+ years old and will need refurbishing in some form.
Chris.
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Post by indianajones on Jul 28, 2013 20:38:58 GMT
Cheers for the input guys, I'll let you guys know how I get on.
At least I know what the problem is now _b
-Andrew
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 29, 2013 3:37:12 GMT
I've found this advert; I know nothing about the company but it would require sending your servo to the UK for overhaul but you wouldn't be liable for UK VAT at 20%. They state they use stainless steel internals as Chris recommends. HERE regards David Cheers for the input guys, I'll let you guys know how I get on. At least I know what the problem is now _b -Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Jul 29, 2013 5:39:26 GMT
Cheers David.
Got a local lead to follow from my father in law, but that company looks like they know what they're doing. If that fails to meet my needs i'll have to price up shipping to the UK (won't be cheap!)
-Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Aug 5, 2013 1:11:08 GMT
Servo off and will be with my father in law in a day or two.
To keep myself busy i'll be doing some wire bushing inside the firewall and other bits in bobs so we can get her back on the road.
Then I might look into doing the timing belts on the Rover.
And if that wasn't enough fun, we've been going to open homes as well...
-Andrew
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 6, 2013 0:46:34 GMT
Hope you can get it sorted soon regards David Servo off and will be with my father in law in a day or two. To keep myself busy i'll be doing some wire bushing inside the firewall and other bits in bobs so we can get her back on the road. Then I might look into doing the timing belts on the Rover. And if that wasn't enough fun, we've been going to open homes as well... -Andrew
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Post by indianajones on Aug 7, 2013 5:54:15 GMT
Brake people said $800 plus, they were under the impression it was a Mk. II and not a IIB, which I think was my fault via a txt message error to my father in law.
Looks like I'll be getting one from the UK after all lol
-Andrew
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