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Post by alonei on Jul 10, 2015 12:48:35 GMT
Hi I am looking to replace my steering with a PAS. Here down under there are non as the Australian production was without it Any one who can help will be much appreciated Cheers Al
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Post by Penguin45 on Jul 10, 2015 18:51:04 GMT
Hmm - it'll be quite a list of parts required. Rack, mounting bracket, steering column shaft, dynamo, dynamo coupling, power steering pump, hoses and support.
Snoopy has just removed the power steering from GLE due to noise issues. I don't know what his intentions are regarding the parts.
Personally I found the steering over-light and quite unfeeling with the power assistance. I would say that the cars are generally light to drive without, except for that 1mph bit when trying to park.
No doubt others will have different opinions.
Chris.
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Post by snoopy11 on Jul 10, 2015 20:37:50 GMT
Hmm - it'll be quite a list of parts required. Rack, mounting bracket, steering column shaft, dynamo, dynamo coupling, power steering pump, hoses and support. Snoopy has just removed the power steering from GLE due to noise issues. I don't know what his intentions are regarding the parts. Personally I found the steering over-light and quite unfeeling with the power assistance. I would say that the cars are generally light to drive without, except for that 1mph bit when trying to park. No doubt others will have different opinions. Chris. As far as I am concerned the power steering bits are now part of Mr P's landcrab repair empire to be used as Chris feels. Im now on an alternator and a non powered rack. It is a much better drive and not heavy. The he only comment I would make about the power steering is that it's crap. As Chris says it's too light with no feel of the road at any speed. the pump and the spare from GLE made a lot of noise so would need fettling if they are reused.
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Post by snoopy11 on Jul 10, 2015 20:38:56 GMT
Oh. And don't forget to use the correct ATF fluid.
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Post by alonei on Jul 11, 2015 0:04:39 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts.,.... So you recommend to stay with the non power? I didnt drove my car so i dont know the feeling.....bought it of ebay.
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Post by alonei on Jul 12, 2015 6:19:00 GMT
Even if the steering is very light and not as accurate ill still be happy to learn more about it as for me its essential as i have beck and shoulder injuries. Is the steering colum needs to be change as well? As for the pump i can get a universal one and brackets i can probably get from a british wracker somewere.ill be happy if someone can teach me some of this Cheers guys
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Post by peppib on Jul 12, 2015 8:26:19 GMT
Alonei
I have severe back problems and am in a wheelchair but still manage to drive my crab without difficulty so you should be fine
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Post by alonei on Jul 12, 2015 9:38:27 GMT
Cheers mate Ok i will drop this and go with your recommendations Thanks guys
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 12, 2015 12:39:22 GMT
I'm not sure what profle tyres are available where you are. UK spec cars had 165x14 80 profile tyres (Mk11/111) cars and 175x13 (80) Mk1 cars. Lower profile tyres / wider wheels may add more weight to the steering when parking but reports on this forum and the Oz website don't suggest any issues with 70 profile tyres. A belated welcome! regards David Cheers mate Ok i will drop this and go with your recommendations Thanks guys
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Post by alonei on Jul 13, 2015 4:02:35 GMT
Hey David From what i see on my car its 185/70R13 86T
Cheers
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 13, 2015 5:48:56 GMT
I believe that's as wide as you can go without fouling something. The 185/13 70 tyres actually have a smaller diameter than the original 175/13 80. It is only 1 size wider than standard so I don't think you will have a problem. I used to run 175/14 instead of 165/14 on my last crab and didn't notice any difference in the weighting. I agree with others here, the PAS is horrible if you enjoy driving. regards David Tyre calculator Hey David From what i see on my car its 185/70R13 86T Cheers
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Post by alonei on Jul 13, 2015 7:18:57 GMT
Cheers mate I learned something (;
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Post by andrewa on Jul 13, 2015 8:45:06 GMT
I know what you mean. Did rally all day yesterday on twisty roads at low speeds and I ache today. Normally just put more air in the tyres - I run 34 front and 32 rear anyway. I know this is a great conversion but it's hugely expensive... www.ezpowersteering.nl/language/23/2/Home.htmlCheers A
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Post by Penguin45 on Jul 13, 2015 23:12:33 GMT
I don't know how far you are from having the car running yet, Al, but I'm tempted to say try it and see how you get on with it. By now, all the cars are different, so you need to drive it and see. My Wolseley is a MkI, but it's now on 14" wheels (Ups the drive ratio) with the 165 section tyres and it's nice to drive. The Austin has the same tyres, but has a completely different feel to it - lighter but positive. Andrew has a 130bhp monster, which I think has a smaller diameter steering wheel, instead of the standard 17" steering wheel which was possibly borrowed from a bus..... The entire driving dynamic of Snoopy's car has changed since the P/S came off and the manual set-up was installed. He seems to like it.
Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Jul 14, 2015 7:05:38 GMT
I agree with Chris try it and see. Every 1800 I've driven has felt different as far as the steering is concerned both in terms of weight and feel. I do know that it is important to ensure the castor and camber settings are correct and that the lower arm rubber bush and tie rod bushes are in good condiiton or it will become heavier. I would advise checking the tie rods as a safety precaution anyway see the thread suspension warning. The suspenion ride height at the front also affects the camber if I recall and will increase the weight if it is too low. Regards David
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